I don't know whether you guys (and girls) discuss poi moves in these discussions. If you don't, please LMK. Anyways, I've never done poi before, but I did something similar, and I was wondering if poi was limited to a certain number of moves. This might seem like a stupid question, but beside the weave, windmill, crossover, butterfly, antispin flower, buzzsaw, btb etc., are there any derivations from that style?
once again, I haven't seen any threads like this, so if this is against the rules, would the mod(s) please kill this thread?
once again, I haven't seen any threads like this, so if this is against the rules, would the mod(s) please kill this thread?
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Re: Poi 'move list'
Tue, March 13, 2007 - 11:34 PMInteresting question. I think there are infinite derivatives -- i mean, a 2 petal flower is very different both in the body and to the audience than a 4 petal flower or a 7 petal flower... but it is, after all, "just a flower." And you can make any move polyrhythmic (one poi spinning faster than the other) or add extensions or make the poi short of shift the plane, etc.
My basic take on it is three "classes" of moves -- weaves type moves, planar type moves, and reel type moves -- and a bunch of transition types - wraps, stalls, tangles, stops, drags, spirals, etc. - and you can put them together to create endless sets of patterns.
I have personally distinguished over 700 sequences on paper (non repeating, though some include others to create the fullness of what they are (weave fountain using both OH and UH W, as an example)) and I'm so certain that doesn't even _begin_ to touch the surface. But it sure is fun.
you might want to look at isolations, crossers, inversions, hyperloops, horzontals, extensions, hybrids and other stuff if you're bored with your current moves. :)
hth!
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Re: Poi 'move list'
Wed, March 21, 2007 - 9:47 AMThere are several "move lists" and, until things started gelling on internet sites, they were largely regional in naming convention. But it's important to realize that "tricks" or specific named "moves" are only a gateway into a much larger movement class. Many/most "tricks" can be moved into things like isolation, antispin, atomics. My best advice is to learn the "trick" then break it down into it's component parts and explore how those components can be used in various ways and in other "tricks".
There are a number of poi groups here that have a good deal of discussions on these things, most notably the Tech Poi tribe and the Art of Poi tribe. There are also a good number of websites that can help out. Take a look at my profile, on the lefthand side, for a decent list of tutorial sites.
If you think in terms of specific tricks, you'll limit yourself. If you break things down into unique components, you'll find that learning is easier and everything will break open for you.
Peace and good spinning,
- Sui
